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On Gritting Your Teeth and Sticking to a Narrative

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An anti-ID commenter who goes by MatSpirit has been active in these pages for well over a year, during which time he has posted scores of comments in the comboxes of dozens of OPs.  This particular statement in one of his comments caught my eye:

If I understand correctly, the ID story is that some unidentified, undetectable supernatural agent acting at a time and place unknown arranged matter into patterns that are living creatures.

*palm forehead*

It is just staggering to me that someone can spend so much time and effort debating ID and still not have the first idea about the fundamentals of the theory.

I understand what is going on here, of course.  Like many of our opponents MatSpirit had a pre-conceived idea of what ID is about before he came to these pages, and nothing — not facts, not logic, not reason –will ever shake that idea.  You can explain the fundamentals of ID to a brick wall 1,000 times, and you can explain the fundamentals of ID to someone like MatSpirit 1,000 times, and it will have an identical effect – that is to say, none at all.

You see, MatSpirit has a narrative.  And the narrative must be maintained at all costs.

UPDATE

I invite readers to skip down to comment 30.  You will see that MatSpirit continues to grit his teeth and stick to his narrative even after it has been pointed out that is what he is doing.  It is really quite amazing.

 

 

 

 

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MatSpirit, I suggest scroll up and look under the resources tab. Further, NWE has a useful summary: http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Intelligent_design (Of course, this assumes you are not projecting a grand conspiracy narrative; which projection should itself be a clue that something has gone wrong. If that is what you are doing, FYI we do not need ID to believe in God if we do -- not all design thinkers, theorists, supporters or friendly critics do. More can be said, but this is a first step.) KFkairosfocus
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It's nice to think that MatSpirit posts here because he knows he's ignorant about ID and wants to do something about it.Mung
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hi everyone. i had an interesting discussion with dr joshua about the vitellogenin pseudogene and other id stuff in the biologos forum here: https://discourse.biologos.org/t/my-id-challenge/4944/506 humans have genes for feathers development. so according to evolution logic we need to conclude that human evolved from bird. worth a discussion.mk
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