OWID — Covid patterns

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May 2, 2020

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Let’s look at daily confirmed cases:

and at a seven-day rolling average for deaths:

South Korea seems to have beaten this wave. Several advanced countries show a stubborn plateau, which is reflected in the linear ongoing growth. It is not confined to the US, we need to learn from the Koreans; who BTW are HCQ users. The “mesa” for China underscores the observation that Chinese data has to be regarded with care. END

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With 100 coronavirus-positive service members hospitalized so far, the military’s cumulative hospitalization rate of 2 percent is 50 times higher than the U.S. hospitalization rate reported by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Senior officials have said throughout the pandemic that military members ? disproportionately young and fit, thanks to target recruiting ages and physical health requirements to serve ? are demographically less likely to suffer complications from the virus. That has largely been true, as the mortality rate among diagnosed troops is 0.0004, versus the overall U.S. rate of 6 percent. But in terms of hospitalizations, service members have been admitted for COVID-19 complications at a much higher rate than the populations currently tracked by the CDC ? though that number is roughly 10 percent of U.S. residents, according to the CDC. The disparity between military and civilian hospitalizations may be rooted in different criteria for admitting service members compared to civilians, as well as increased capacity on military installation hospitals and a 100 percent insured rate among troops. https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/05/05/covid-19-hospitalization-rate-50-times-higher-in-the-military-than-in-overall-us/rhampton7_{May 5, 2020
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The Kansas City, Missouri Health Department says an increase in cases in the city is tied to a coronavirus outbreak at a meat processing facility in St. Joseph. So far, 412 asymptomatic employees tested positive out of the 2,367 workers who were tested between April 27 and May 1. The number of cases in Kansas City increased from 586 on Monday to 664. So far, 16 Kansas City residents have died from COVID-19. As of Tuesday, Triumph Foods remains open and operational. “Those with positive results are being notified and have been asked to self-isolate at home,” according to Triumph Foods CEO Mark Campbell. https://fox4kc.com/tracking-coronavirus/kc-health-department-says-increase-in-cases-tied-to-st-joseph-meat-processing-plant/rhampton7_{May 5, 2020
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According to union representatives, the problems is getting PPE for plant workers. A request made eleven days ago for PPE for Kentucky meat processing workers has yet to be fulfilled by Governor Andy Beshear's office. Union officials insist they’re talking with governor's administration and the UFCW Local 227 is committed to employee safety. There's plenty of livestock but coronavirus cases are creating a bottleneck which is disrupting the supply chain. A Louisville area plant has nearly 60 reported COVID-19 cases. It's still open, but others across the state and country have cut shifs and production or outright closed. Many are closing to setup safer operating guidelines to prevent the spread. https://www.whas11.com/article/news/local/kentucky-meat-packing-workers-waiting-ppe-covid-19-coronavirus-increase/417-d1871b08-058a-4cb2-9e98-1e39ea55f055rhampton7_{May 5, 2020
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Cargill announced Monday that it started the process to idle its Schuyler, NE beef plant. In a statement, the company says it’s shutting down because of its commitment to prioritizing employee health. As of Tuesday morning, the East Central District Health Department reported 431 confirmed cases in its four-county district. 241 in Colfax County, home to Schuyler, and 185 in nearby Platte County, home to Columbus. The health department is not reporting if cases are tied to packing plants. The Schuyler plant employs about 2,200 people and processes 4,500 head of cattle per day.rhampton7_{May 5, 2020
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JVL:
There are a lot of people that think that you are irrational.
Irrational people would. And there are a lot of irrational people. So there you have it. :cool: And at least I understand nature and biology.ET_{May 5, 2020
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KF, The "mesa" was from the Chinese CDC going back over older records and reclassifying a lot of old deaths at once. That was no doubt partly a result of skepticism about the official death toll from Wuhan, but the reason for "new" deaths were made public at the time and was widely reported. Countries like the US and UK will have to make similar updates, as they are likely missing thousands of deaths too. So we should take all stats with a grain of salt, but, sadly, the mortality ones are the most reliable (albeit lagged) indicator of what is happening in a given territory.orthomyxo_{May 5, 2020
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F/N: The breakdown of sound thinking we see in the context of Covid is an index of a general problem in our civilisation. That extends to many things, including how the design inference is addressed. KFkairosfocus_{May 5, 2020
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Folks, maybe the most important point on the table from the OP is the Chinese mesa. China is where this disease started, possibly by breakout from lab containment. We see an artifact in the data from China that points to untrustworthiness and lends credibility to other signs that that totalitarian country had a far bigger outbreak than they admitted to. We are dealing with noisy proxies at best, we should take due warning. KFkairosfocus_{May 5, 2020
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Others, kindly do not feed or enable trollish distractions. KFkairosfocus_{May 5, 2020
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EG & JVL: I am gavelling further distractions into the sewer, and no your very language betrays malicious intent and hostility never mind bland denials. Just think about the implication that objection to perversity is irrational, somehow; which is patently demonically twisted. The obsessiveness that has become manifest over months is also a sign. There is a world crisis on the table, that is the focus and further sidetracking to the sewer will be treated as what it is, deliberate trollish misbehaviour. KFkairosfocus_{May 5, 2020
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. JVL in #68 concedes to him/herself: "Can I actually defend my position? No, but I'm clever".Upright BiPed_{May 5, 2020
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ET: I am OK with the fact that some people were born to be irrational and oppose nature. People can choose to overcome their inborn shortcomings. There are a lot of people that think that you are irrational. Can you choose to be something you are not? Do you have free will in that matter?JVL_{May 5, 2020
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Upright BiPed: Why are you unable to acknowledge the clearly documented reality of the gene system, that is, that you cannot describe it without recourse to discontinuous association and irreducible complexity? Maybe I was just born that way!!JVL_{May 5, 2020
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Earth to Eddie- If it was all just chemical reactions then why have your scientists FAILed to produce a living organism from scratch? Are they all a bunch of dolts, dumber than mindless nature? Or do you think there is something else that runs it all? Proof-reading is a purely chemical reaction? Really? Editing and splicing- just chemical reactions? All of those processes, including transcription, require knowledge. Knowledge that chemical reactions don't possess. If we listen to Eddie, everything in a computer is just electrical reactions. Cars run by known chemical and mechanical reactions.ET_{May 5, 2020
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JVL:
Many homosexuals say they didn’t choose to be the way they are, that was just their inborn nature.
Most criminals say that, too. The people in special education didn't choose it, either. I am OK with the fact that some people were born to be irrational and oppose nature. People can choose to overcome their inborn shortcomings.ET_{May 5, 2020
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Can we not all have a bit of a laugh about things we no long take seriously?
On that note … Why are you unable to acknowledge the clearly documented reality of the gene system, that is, that you cannot describe it without recourse to discontinuous association and irreducible complexity?Upright BiPed_{May 5, 2020
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ET: Homosexuality is irrational. And it goes against nature. Many homosexuals say they didn't choose to be the way they are, that was just their inborn nature. Do you think that is possible; that they were just born that way? When you think about your own orientation do you think it was a matter of nature or nurture? Did you choose to be heterosexual or was that part of you from the start?JVL_{May 5, 2020
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Kairosfocus: JVL, your hostility to the Christian faith and to the natural law leading to ill advised village atheist style rhetoric are duly noted. Hang on just a minute! I did say no offence intended and indicated that I just found some of the 'rules' in Leviticus confusing/amusing. And surely most Christians and Jews and Muslims no long abide by a great many of those rules. Can we not all have a bit of a laugh about things we no long take seriously?JVL_{May 5, 2020
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BA
Since you tucked tail and ran away, I will give you one more chance to answer.
What was to run away from? DNA is a chemical (deoxyribonucleic acid). It interacts with other chemicals (e.g., transcriptase) to form yet other chemicals (e.g., RNA) that reacts with other chemicals (e.g., amino acids) to form other chemicals (e.g., proteins). This is admittedly overly simplified, but there is nowhere in this process that does not involve chemical reactions. And, to bring us back to the subject of the OP, we use some of these same chemical reactions when we test fro COVID-19.Ed George_{May 5, 2020
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KF
EG and JVL, your hostility to the Christian faith and to the natural law leading to ill advised village atheist style rhetoric are duly noted.
There was no hostility intended nor, for a rational person, perceived.Ed George_{May 5, 2020
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EG and JVL, your hostility to the Christian faith and to the natural law leading to ill advised village atheist style rhetoric are duly noted. The consequences, that doors are opened to nihilistic chaos of every sort are also duly noted. In the meanwhile, there is no reason to follow smelly red herrings. Can we instead focus the plateau faced by several countries, the mesa in China's reported data [and what it implies for their reported numbers] as well as the countries that seem to be beating the wave? KFkairosfocus_{May 5, 2020
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Ed George, Since you tucked tail and ran away, I will give you one more chance to answer.
BA Are you suggesting that the genetic code works through a series of chemical reactions?

EG: Duh!

BA: ["Duh!”] is a non-response. Are you suggesting that the genetic code works through a series of chemical reactions?
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Homosexuality is irrational. And it goes against nature.ET_{May 5, 2020
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JVL, I find it amusing that people are willing to set aside much of Leviticus when it suits them (pun intended) but yell and scream when it is suggested that we set aside the irrational prohibitions against homosexuality.Ed George_{May 5, 2020
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EdGeorge: So, if I don’t follow God’s rules, there is no consequences? I don’t have to worry about going to hell? You haven't been wearing clothing made out of both linen and wool again have you? (Leviticus 19:19) Or eaten an owl? (Leviticus 11:13-19) Sorry, no offence intended but I do find some of Leviticus pretty funny in a what the . . . kind of way.JVL_{May 5, 2020
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So, if I don’t follow God’s rules, there is no consequences? I don’t have to worry about going to hell?Ed George_{May 5, 2020
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Sev,
and the advice Christians offer us is always backed up by the threat of violence.
Yeah, Mother Teresa was a real gangster. All those hospitals, orphanages, universities, brutal. You've said some really stupid things over the years Sev. That might take the cake.Barry Arrington_{May 5, 2020
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The Iowa Department of Public Health said Monday it will consider where to reveal the number of positive COVID-19 cases at Perry’s Tyson Fresh Meats plant. On Friday, KCCI reported that city officials in Perry felt frustrated with a lack of information from Tyson and Dallas County regarding confirmed COVID-19 cases. Tyson claimed it cannot release its infection counts due to employee privacy, though multiple attorneys debunked that claim from a legal standpoint. The Dallas County Health Department also refused to release numbers. Sarah Reisetter, deputy director of the Iowa Department of Public health, said the department is discussing if it is in the public interest for Perry residents to know how many workers are infected. https://www.kcci.com/article/iowa-dps-considers-sharing-covid-19-cases-at-tyson-plant/32369704rhampton7_{May 4, 2020
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An Oregon seafood company has closed its facilities in Astoria after at least 13 workers tested positive for COVID-19. Thirty-five Bornstein Seafood employees were tested for COVID-19 on Saturday after showing symptoms of the coronavirus, according to a company news release, and vice president Andrew Bornstein on Monday told KGW that at least 13 workers have tested positive. Clatsop County health officials went to the company's Astoria seafood processing facility over two weeks ago to advise workers how to do their jobs while keeping distance from one another, Bornstein said. Now, the company’s entire workforce is being tested for the virus. https://www.kgw.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/workers-positive-covid-19-astoria-bornstein-seafood-processing-plant/283-0001d0ba-9fa4-443a-9de1-9123784984fbrhampton7_{May 4, 2020
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More than 110 coronavirus infections reported to the Oklahoma State Health Department have come from a meat processing plant in Guymon that employs thousands. Several current and former employees say workers toil in crowded conditions amid unenforced screening protocols and improper cleaning procedures at Seaboard Foods processing plant in Guymon. Seaboard Foods says 116 employees at the Guymon plant have tested positive for COVID-19. https://oklahoman.com/article/5661562/coronavirus-in-oklahoma-116-covid-19-infections-found-in-pork-processing-plant-in-guymonrhampton7_{May 4, 2020
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