Plants as conscious – Uncommon Descent

Animal minds Mind Plants

Scientists: For the last time, plants are NOT conscious!!

We know something’s changed when scientists need to make these points. Maybe underestimating the significance of human intelligence plays a role. After all, if we are just clever apes, maybe lettuce is just-as-clever apes too. Maybe salad is murder…

Truthfreedom 7 Seversky That alone is significant evidence for the physical basis of consciousness. Hylemorphism agrees. We need a "physical" brain.... – Can logic or evidence help you...
Upright BiPed . I’m not talking about the stuff that’s clear, I’m talking about things that are iffy. What do you look... – The smog is beginning to clear...
Truthfreedom 4 AaronS1978 Hahahahahahaha @ Sev thats you counter argument is convoluted word play that amounts to the EXACT same thing!... – Michael Egnor: Darwinism as Hegel’s philosophy...
ET JVL: The first thing an archaeologist looks for when considering an object that may or may not be intelligently designed... – The smog is beginning to clear...
JVL ET: That has nothing to do with whether or not said object was intelligently designed or not. Absolutely it does!... – The smog is beginning to clear...
ET Also, natural selection is a process of elimination. There isn't any selecting going on. And yes, there is a huge... – Behe's First Rule Writ Large
kairosfocus F/N: On the safety narrative, I note this study published 21st as medrxiv: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.16.20155531v3 >>Safety of Hydroxychloroquine among Outpatient Clinical... – The Frontline Doctors put some "plausible"...
ET Yes Bob O'H, I understand that you have issues with reality. The fact remains that your position doesn't even have... – Behe's First Rule Writ Large
kairosfocus Jerry, the current magisterium is as unknowingly doomed as were the European Aristocracy c May 1914. they and their designated... – The Frontline Doctors put some "plausible"...
john_a_designer There is no doubt that the typical modern-secular progressive accepts some form of Darwinism or Neo-Darwinism without question. However, this... – Michael Egnor: Darwinism as Hegel’s philosophy...
Truthfreedom 2 Upright Biped Like you (Seversky) for instance, whose interest is not in the pursuit of understanding reality, but in... – Michael Egnor: Darwinism as Hegel’s philosophy...
Bob O'H Or someone not taking your comments seriously. – Behe's First Rule Writ Large
William J Murray God and the Afterlife: Latest Findings from the Largest NDE Study Ever Reported https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfiwd2PzXvw He actually talks very little about... – Can logic or evidence help you...
ET Darwinism, ie blind watchmaker evolution, is a useless heuristic. And it appears that no one knows how to test its... – Michael Egnor: Darwinism as Hegel’s philosophy...
jerry Kf, History is going to judge us harshly, for cause. Depends on who will write the history. That is what... – The Frontline Doctors put some "plausible"...
john_a_designer The agenda of the contemporary secular progressive I think can be understood by three terms they like to use rhetorically:... – Michael Egnor: Darwinism as Hegel’s philosophy...
ET Does anyone (else) have any issues understanding the following: The rights of the mother, as an individual, end when she... – Scientific American doubles down on all...
ET You are a liar, Bob O'H- or a fool. – Behe's First Rule Writ Large
Bob O'H Oh, we do, ET. But we hide that away in the Really Dark Web. – Behe's First Rule Writ Large
ET JVL: But you haven’t ever been able to answer the most important question regarding what does an archaeologist consider when... – The smog is beginning to clear...
bornagain77 WJM "It seems to me that a lot of the information we have coming from the afterlife (and there is... – Does a cosmopsychist believe in life...