. . . and similar manipulative spin and mob-ocracy games masquerading as truth, news, knowledge/education, etc now clearly needs to be confronted — if we are to think straight and act soundly in good time to avoid going over the cliff as a civilisation:
Of Lemmings, marches of folly and cliffs of self-falsifying absurdity . . .
The Parable of Plato’s Cave (and the linked idea of the Overton Window):
. . . has much to teach us in a media-dominated age where manipulators keep trying to push/pull our window of acceptability through deceit, poison, accusation, polarising and more.
Especially if we ask ourselves: how does the shadow show come to be, and how is a community so manipulated that it loses contact with objective reality?
Acts 27 gives us a picture in miniature (once we realise that it was common knowledge that some seasons were dangerous for sailing in the Mediterranean basin of 2,000 years ago, but that many people can be induced to go along with those they look up to for leadership, power and expertise):
>>Ac 27:4 . . . putting out to sea from there [= Sidon] we sailed under the lee of Cyprus, because the winds were against us.5 And when we had sailed across the open sea along the coast of Cilicia and Pamphylia, we came to Myra in Lycia.6 There the centurion found a ship of Alexandria sailing for Italy and put us on board.7 We sailed slowly for a number of days and arrived with difficulty off Cnidus, and as the wind did not allow us to go farther, we sailed under the lee of Crete off Salmone.8 Coasting along it with difficulty, we came to a place called Fair Havens, near which was the city of Lasea.
9 Since much time had passed, and the voyage was now dangerous because even the Fast[a] was already over, Paul advised them,10 saying, “Sirs, I perceive that the voyage will be with injury and much loss, not only of the cargo and the ship, but also of our lives.”11 But the centurion paid more attention to the pilot and to the owner of the ship than to what Paul said.12 And because the harbor was not suitable to spend the winter in, the majority decided to put out to sea from there, on the chance that somehow they could reach Phoenix, a harbor of Crete, facing both southwest and northwest, and spend the winter there.
The Storm at Sea
13 Now when the south wind blew gently, supposing that they had obtained their purpose, they weighed anchor and sailed along Crete, close to the shore.14 But soon a tempestuous wind, called the northeaster, struck down from the land.15 And when the ship was caught and could not face the wind, we gave way to it and were driven along.16 Running under the lee of a small island called Cauda,[b] we managed with difficulty to secure the ship’s boat.17 After hoisting it up, they used supports to undergird [= frap] the ship. Then, fearing that they would run aground on the Syrtis, they lowered the gear,[c] and thus they were driven along.18 Since we were violently storm-tossed, they began the next day to jettison the cargo.19 And on the third day they threw the ship’s tackle overboard with their own hands.20 When neither sun nor stars appeared for many days, and no small tempest lay on us, all hope of our being saved was at last abandoned.
21 Since they had been without food for a long time, Paul stood up among them and said, “Men, you should have listened to me and not have set sail from Crete and incurred this injury and loss.22 Yet now I urge you to take heart, for there will be no loss of life among you, but only of the ship.23 For this very night there stood before me an angel of the God to whom I belong and whom I worship,24 and he said, ‘Do not be afraid, Paul; you must stand before Caesar. And behold, God has granted you all those who sail with you.’25 So take heart, men, for I have faith in God that it will be exactly as I have been told.26 But we must run aground on some island.”>>
Here, Mr Moneybags and his bought- and- paid- for technico manipulated the passengers and the Centurion into going along with a foolhardy voyage. That Jeremiah over there in chains with scars from three previous shipwrecks? Just ignore that half-mad idiot rejected by his own people. We are the experts and our consensus is, we can do it . . . it will only take an afternoon’s sail on a comfortable reach to go forty miles to a safe and commodious harbour. Of course, the predictable result of turning democracy into a manipulated de-mockracy, was shipwreck.
And, on many, many dimensions, that is exactly what we face today.
(BTW, I think we would all profit from reading and viewing this Melanie Philips article and video interview here.)
Our challenge is to de-spin the dominant agenda and its seven mountains/ commanding heights citadels, to come to a critical mass of prudence towards a sounder more sustainable alternative:
Oh yes, I doubt that it is a mere accident that the Limousine torched on Trump’s Inauguration day
. . . was rented for Wallnau, and that the bought and paid for “Anarchists” — a dead political movement if ever there was one — claimed to be “We the People.”
Where, it is worth the while to pause and unpack the old Soviet/Bolshevik term, agit prop.
Namely, it strictly/narrowly . . . per current dictionary definitions . . . speaks to twisting the theatre, arts, literature and the like into propaganda. However, on both the history and the inherent dynamics as work it readily extends to the mob-ocracy game, in which the streets and news media or institutions of intellectual leadership and education — notice the appeals to “consensus” on matters of controversy or where something is patently wrong with the dominant and too often domineering schools of thought . . . — are turned into a grand theatre projecting shadow shows confused for reality.
Often, such shadow shows are sponsored by governments, sometimes by powerful factions. And of course, such theatre too often becomes bloody, creating a horrific escalating spiral of chaos, confusion, retaliation and polarisation.
U/D, Feb 2 — it looks like live events are demonstrating my point:
Here is a girl being struck and pepper-sprayed at UC Berkeley for the thought crime of objecting to the riots:
(Ask yourself, what if she has a medical condition such as grand mal epilepsy or asthma or the like that could be triggered, sometimes with severe consequences? Do these rioters think or care about what fires they could be playing with?)
Likewise, people are being chased and struck to the ground by blackshirts (pardon language that pops up):
Here is some media coverage, in this case backgrounders leading up to a telephone interview with the proposed speaker whose speech event was shut down by the riot:
(I further understand her husband was beaten unconscious [which more or less implies concussion injuries] with several of his ribs being broken.)
U/D Feb 6th: The friend “pepper” sprayed during an interview also speaks out about the attack, indicating that it was the identification as My/Trump supporters that triggered the first and second attacks:
(And in case you think pepper spraying is minor, consider the implicit threat as something much more destructive up to a poison gas could easily have been used. BTW, why didn’t someone realise, assault with a potentially deadly weapon and tackle this suspect/perpetrator to the ground? ANS: People are not trained for that and by the time you observe, orient, decide and begin to react [cf. on John Boyd’s OODA Loop, here] it is over for good or ill; that is why trained security should have been right there, preferably law enforcement. It is also why a clear entry area protected by barriers with adequate separation should have been in place . . . another point of negligence by the authorities. Likewise consider how dazzling was used to initiate the second attack, which ended in mayhem: disorientation that could easily have prepared for anything from kidnapping to stabbing or shooting. If the pepper spray woman can be caught and interrogated, this would be important as she — it is likely to have been one individual — initiated the attack sequence. Given the hostile nature of the interview, perhaps it would be useful to interrogate the interviewer as possibly being complicit given what happened and what could all too easily have happened. Then, compare this sort of coverage with how the major media have treated the events at UCB last Wednesday evening, to see how street agitation and bully-boy tactics then feed into the theatre of narrative propaganda, spin tactics, gaslighting and outright brainwashing. Something truly ugly is going on.)
U/D Feb 5th: Meanwhile, we have a picture of police in riot gear inside the student union while riot-induced chaos was going on outside:
The poster of this very tellingly asks:
>>I was at UC Berkeley last night. Here is a pic I got after the speech cancellation of nearly 100 SWAT and campus police sitting inside the student union building doing NOTHING while people were getting beaten outside. WHO told them to stand down?>>
Further U/D Feb 5, pm: Notice — HT Zero Hedge, Feb 2nd — how the street theatre then gets projected by the media houses (CNN as an example, but take note of ZH’s own perspectives, too . . . ) to suit their particular agendas and narratives:
Under certain circumstances, agit prop becomes not just rioting but rebellion and guerrilla war — these days, 4th generation war [think of how the Palestinian Arab uprisings and declaratively genocidal terrorism campaigns have come to be viewed as “liberation” struggles by many across the world . . . ] — or even radical revolution.
I again point to the de-spinning framework I developed a decade ago:
Let us wake up to what is in front of us regarding not just design debates but ever so many issues and agendas across our civilisation. Plato’s grim warning from nearly 2360 years ago, is again all too apt:
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Ath [in The Laws, Bk X 2,350+ ya]. . . .[The avant garde philosophers and poets, c. 360 BC] say that fire and water, and earth and air [i.e the classical “material” elements of the cosmos], all exist by nature and chance, and none of them by art . . . [such that] all that is in the heaven, as well as animals and all plants, and all the seasons come from these elements, not by the action of mind, as they say, or of any God, or from art, but as I was saying, by nature and chance only [ –> that is, evolutionary materialism is ancient and would trace all things to blind chance and mechanical necessity] . . . .
[Thus, they hold] that the principles of justice have no existence at all in nature, but that mankind are always disputing about them and altering them; and that the alterations which are made by art and by law have no basis in nature, but are of authority for the moment and at the time at which they are made.-
[ –> Relativism, too, is not new; complete with its radical amorality rooted in a worldview that has no foundational IS that can ground OUGHT, leading to an effectively arbitrary foundation only for morality, ethics and law: accident of personal preference, the ebbs and flows of power politics, accidents of history and and the shifting sands of manipulated community opinion driven by “winds and waves of doctrine and the cunning craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming . . . ” cf a video on Plato’s parable of the cave; from the perspective of pondering who set up the manipulative shadow-shows, why.]
These, my friends, are the sayings of wise men, poets and prose writers, which find a way into the minds of youth. They are told by them that the highest right is might,
[ –> Evolutionary materialism — having no IS that can properly ground OUGHT — leads to the promotion of amorality on which the only basis for “OUGHT” is seen to be might (and manipulation: might in “spin”) . . . ]
and in this way the young fall into impieties, under the idea that the Gods are not such as the law bids them imagine; and hence arise factions [ –> Evolutionary materialism-motivated amorality “naturally” leads to continual contentions and power struggles influenced by that amorality at the hands of ruthless power hungry nihilistic agendas], these philosophers inviting them to lead a true life according to nature, that is,to live in real dominion over others [ –> such amoral and/or nihilistic factions, if they gain power, “naturally” tend towards ruthless abuse and arbitrariness . . . they have not learned the habits nor accepted the principles of mutual respect, justice, fairness and keeping the civil peace of justice, so they will want to deceive, manipulate and crush — as the consistent history of radical revolutions over the past 250 years so plainly shows again and again], and not in legal subjection to them [–> nihilistic will to power not the spirit of justice and lawfulness].
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To be forewarned is — if we are wise — to be forearmed. END
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I support exposing pedophiles whenever they are identified. Where I draw the line is spreading stories (conspiracies if you will) that are not fully substantiated. Rumours of pedophilia can ruin people's' lives even if they are proven to be false. For example, the Pizzagate conspiracy resulted in harassment of the owner and staff of the restaurant and a shooting. All because of a conspiracy theory that has been proven to be false.
I fully support free speech, but I do not support consequence free speech. Anyone who spread rumours such as this, that do harm to innocent people, should be criminally charged. But, I must admit that I have no idea how that could be done.Armand Jacks
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WJM, have the remnant in mind. Cf von Mises: https://mises.org/library/isaiahs-job KFkairosfocus
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Oh, I see now. I didn't realize TA is a troll. My bad.William J Murray
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TA, I point you to 201 above: https://uncommondescent.com/atheism/the-problem-of-agit-prop-street-theatre/#comment-626231 I suggest i/l/o the substance there, that you need to seriously moderate your dismissive tone, and what seems to be a habitual pattern of selective attention and inattention. KFkairosfocus
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Col Kratman, on riot control for the upcoming riot season -- which, with the degree of irresponsible incitement that has been going on is liable to be worse than 1968.
Let us understand the fire that is being played with by the cultural marxist agit-prop operators, the media shadow show manipulators and their political and financial backers:
http://www.everyjoe.com/2017/02/20/politics/riot-control-training-suppression-tips/#1
>>Of course, we should have been preparing for really serious riots starting several years ago. It was probably too much, though, to expect the same administration doing everything possible to encourage rioting to expend the money, time, and effort needed to suppress rioting. Why, next thing you know, people will be asking the government to undo the anti-white racism and anti-heterosexual sexism that’s been all the rage for most of the last eight years. And we can’t have that, now, can we?
Ahem.
In any case, we probably don’t have long to prepare. The riots that were small, in poor weather, at the inauguration, may well become quite large this spring and summer. Moreover, the enemy – and they are the enemy – has been getting in a lot of useful practice. As an ideal, it would be nice to raise a force of professional riot control police, maybe to the size of a large division. Again, though, there probably just isn’t time for that . . . .
What I do recommend is a technique worked out by the troops themselves, down in Panama, in the 80s. It requires one formation, a portable loudspeaker, a certain understanding of mob psychology, and aggressiveness. Lightweight shields are certainly useful.
The one formation is on line, something the troops don’t need much practice in assuming. It can and should be a partially double line, with some non-lethal weapons in the back, along with perhaps a few buckshot-loaded shotguns for dealing with armed or incendiary rioters, and a snatch team or a few of them. Designated marksman probably need to be under tighter control, adjacent to, or in radio contact with and following the direct orders of commanders: “The masked one in the red jacket carrying a flaming bottle towards that McDonald’s; shoot him.”
It takes a little training, though less than what’s called for in the manual, and looks like this:
1. The troops, as they march in column to the point of forming the line, should be pounding their shields with their batons, one whack per left step. It should sound like a single, drawn out, fearfully powerful blow, to remind the rioters of what’s in store for them and to give the faint-hearted a chance to leave while they can. This will serve to partially demoralize those of somewhat stouter hearts, but who are not fanatical cadre.
2. The troops are brought to “mark time…march” (marching in place), but continue pounding their shields in time together.
3. The command is given to form a line; the lead platoon’s squads move out following their squad leaders, and, on command, face toward the rioters. Other platoons move up and continue to fan out to the flanks of the lead platoon. If the area is wide, quite likely more companies are deploying, too. They’re all still pounding their shields.
4. The commander, through his portable loudspeaker, gives the preparatory commands: “Ready…Ready…Ready…” The troops change to beating their batons frenziedly, bending their left legs, moving their right legs back as if to sprint, and positioning their shields to their front.
5. The commander orders “Rush!” The troops launch themselves forward. Most of the rioters will run and probably faster, both for not being as encumbered and for having a head start. Some, being braver than the rest, will delay too long for an escape. These the troops knock over with their shields and then smash with kicks, stomps, and downward strokes of the batons. The objective isn’t just inflicting pain but also damage. Don’t draw it out or make a Rodney King beating out of it. Knock them down and hurt them quickly and decisively. The second, thinner line flexicuffs them. They should leave by ambulance. Women rioters should not be knocked down but pushed forward and prodded with the nails in the ends of the batons. I’ll explain why, later on.
6. The rush stops at a pre-rehearsed fifteen meters and the troops dress the line (= get back into a line). Note, at this point you have already set a pattern; when the troops get ready to charge, rioters run like hell.
7. The rioters will slowly regather their courage. (Be fair; it’s tougher for them because, unlike a unit of infantry, engineers, tankers, air defense, or artillery, they are not a cohesive body to begin with.) As they do, they’ll begin to filter back to what we might call confrontation distance. Again the commander orders, “Ready…Ready…Ready…” but doesn’t give the “Rush!” Why not? Because they’ll have started to run again at the first or second “ready.” Instead, the commander orders, “cancel…cancel” and then marches the troops forward on line, into the space just vacated by the rioters, at a normal thirty-inch step.
8. At that point, having run from a threat that didn’t materialize, the riot cadres are humiliated and their followers more doubtful about their ability to take on the riot control force. Repeat the exercise, this time with a, “Rush!” The cadres will be slower to run, meaning they can be caught up to, or more of them can, and, again, be sent to the hospital, thence to jail, then to prison to be made non-anally retentive.
It’s up to the commander on the ground to judge when to actually rush, when to march into the vacuum, and when to cancel. He and the troops can have a lot of fun this way, by the way, and the rioters will not like it a bit. Moreover, even though not nearly as heavily laden, this exercise will start to wear them out a lot faster than it will the troops.
Ah, but what if the rioters don’t run, but hundreds (and hundreds) of them decide to stand and fight? Be still my heart. Oh, joy; oh happy-happy-joy-joy. These assholes know how to posture, but fight as a group, by which I mean a collective and mutually supportive action, not just a lot of people fighting at the same time? It is to laugh. If they try to stand, you don’t send a few to the hospital. You send them all to the hospital…or the morgue; whatever the market will bear. Rubber bullets, you know, fired from point blank range, are not necessarily non-lethal . . . >>
His part 2:
http://www.everyjoe.com/2017/02/06/politics/riot-control-stop-riot-before-out-of-hand/#1
>>Taking the recent anti-Milo riots, at Berkeley, as an example1; one suspects, given the size, that at least the cadres leading and organizing the riots – oh, yes, they’re led and organized – were semi-professional.2 I would be terribly unsurprised to discover that they were even paid. Some of these may not be from the local area, but brought in from wherever, specifically for the purpose of organizing, leading, and exacerbating the rioting. I mean…you know…people don’t show up with pepper spray (not useful against protective mask-equipped riot control forces but good for stopping free speech from mere civilians), bats (for breaking windows and perhaps heads), dressed in black (probably both for intimidation and mutual identification and support), and with face masks, just spontaneously. They don’t come with flares in their pockets, either, unless they’re at least contemplating arson.
Arson; I mentioned last week that riots can be quite deadly. They not only kill people, they kill civilization. Anyone who doubts this I advise to take a drive through Detroit, sometime, a city which has never fully recovered from the riots that took place fifty years ago.3
So why do people riot? Why do people riot to that city-wrecking and life-ending extent? I would suggest there are three significant reasons: Outrage, fun, and profit. It’s not necessary, by the way, for everyone to feel a great deal of outrage. It’s sufficient if only a small cadre do, provided that cadre can provide fun and profit for a larger group.
Fun? Fun comes in with wrecking things, with rape, with arson, and in exercising power against the helpless. One can see this in the assault on “Katrina,” as shown on Stefan Molyneux’s podcast of 3 February, 2017.4 One could see it, too, in the attack on Reginald Denny, twenty-five years ago, during the Los Angeles riots or 1992.5 It’s fun to go wild. It’s fun to be out of control. It’s fun to hurt people. I’m sure that for some it’s fun to rape.
Those things, however, are not fun for everybody. You’ll have a hard time, ordinarily, getting a really big crowd for a gang rape in the streets. And it was, after all, only five men involved in the Reginald Denny beating out of tens of thousands rioting in Los Angeles.
But everyone likes a free TV set, or a nice piece of jewelry for the missus or the girlfriend, or a free (and unregistered) rifle or pistol, or a new Rolex. Cash is nice, too.
And that’s how these kinds of riots can typically get out of hand. First a small group of hardcore, dedicated rioters either show up on their own or infiltrate a peaceful protest. If they’re not stopped there, they create the anarchy of which all the most intense fun is made. That is also intended to attract a crowd sufficient to provide cover for the next steps, which include breaking safeguards – windows and doors, plus alarm systems – to desirable, lootable property. I say that windows and doors are safeguards, but what they also are are “moral” safeguards. Nobody wants to do the time for breaking and entering, and few of us are willing or eager to break windows and doors, but if it’s already been done by someone else then that becomes a different matter. That brings out the larger numbers of more normal, profit-minded folks, ever fearful that someone may get the color TV that – by rights, they’re pretty sure – really belongs to them. Once that happens, there is no controlling the riot without massive bloodletting. There’s also no accounting for the innocent blood that’s going to be shed, or the lives ruined, if that out of control riot is not suppressed.
Thus, given the limited pattern of small scale rioting we’ve seen since Trump’s inauguration, there are four tasks to be accomplished, maybe better said, four firebreaks to hold, to keep more of our cities from turning into Detroit: 1) Stop the cadre, 2) stop the fun, 3) prevent looting, 4) isolate and destroy the cadre. That means a particular set of rules of engagement. Those would read something like this:
Anyone seen carrying incendiaries will be shot to kill or maim. No specific additional warning will be given.
Anyone dressed in a mask that prevents identification, in the vicinity of an incipient or ongoing riot, will be presumed to intend felonious activity. They will be shot to kill or maim. No specific additional warning will be given.
Anyone seen wielding a weapon, including, but not limited to, firearms, clubs, machetes, knives, swords, or spears, will be presumed to intend the use of that weapon to commit or aid in the commission of a felony. They will be shot to kill or maim. No specific, additional warning will be given.
Anyone engaged in arson will be shot to kill or maim.
Anyone engaged in looting or encouraging looting by the breaking of safeguards will be shot to kill or maim.6
Oh, the horror, the horror; shooting people to defend mere property. No one should be surprised that I, personally, have no problem with that, but I admit I am in the minority there. However, no, it isn’t about defending property; it’s about removing the ultimate bait that turns a small riot into a huge one, which can turn a large city into a wreck. And don’t weep too much for the deservedly dead or mercifully maimed; they’ll have had sufficient warning, the first warning. If they’re shot for looting or breaking doors and windows to encourage looting, they’ll have volunteered for it. Note: Sixty-three people, most of them innocent, were killed in the 1992 Los Angeles riots. It seems to me only good math and good sense to shoot and kill a few of the people who would start that sort of riot all over again.
So how does this one play out for the next anti-First Amendment, anti-free speech fascismo-fest masquerading as an anti-fascist rally? I’d expect one of a couple of things to happen, initially. Presuming the Rules of Engagement, given above, are read out over a loudspeaker, then the riot cadre either drop their masks or they’re shot. If they refuse to drop their masks, I expect they’ll do so after a couple of them are shot. At that point, if they want to break a window or burn a building, or just assault young women and beat their husbands senseless, they’ll have to do it with identifiable faces showing such that, even if they’re not shot on the spot, they can be arrested, tried, and sent to the very worst prisons in the system.
Frankly, they’re wearing the masks for reasons, the big one being that they don’t want to do the time for the crime, so I’d expect there to be little or no arson, little or no breaking and entering, or breaking of safeguards, and hence not much of a riot. That’s a pity, really, because the more of them we shoot now the fewer we’ll have to shoot if we devolve into civil war, as still seems likely.
And speaking of war, which this is, anyway, we can reasonably expect the black shirted thugs to escalate once we do. There will be snipers, though competence may be beyond their reach. Thus, there must also be counter-snipers . . . >>
--> And if you thought my talking about 6.5 mm Grendel and Creedmoor was bad -- I was only warning on what letting rule 303 loose implies -- wait until we go up to pro-grade snipers capable of reaching out 2,000 yards and more with 50-cal anti materiel rifles (these used to be anti-tank rifles up to early days of WW II, look up the Boys) and doing almost as well with 0.338 Lapua sniper weapons.
--> Kratman (in the first article) has some choice words for the traitor/ seditious/ fifth column press:
>>The press is not only the enemy; they must be presumed to be an utterly unprincipled and dishonest enemy. Anything and everything the riot control force does will be filmed and, if necessary, edited, to present it in the worst possible light. Therefore, they must have their own camera teams recording everything to both clear themselves of wrongdoing or spurious charges of indiscipline, as well as to discredit the press which will have edited the truth heavily. [--> Media shadow show tactics that potentially turn riots into revolutions by way of waving the bloody shirt out of its proper context (assuming properly disciplined riot control forces). That is explicitly what was being planned in my homeland in 1986; as was blurted out by a hothead in a student union meeting, the hothead who was dragged out of the meeting literally by his ear (I never saw that before), by a lecturer in attendance who was a senior officer of the communist party.] NB: There is no real limit to how dishonest the modern press can be and will be in support of the leftist agenda. There is no placating them. There is no degree of righteous conduct they will not twist into wrongdoing. There is thus no sense in trying to placate them, in trying to be nice, in tightly limiting violence, etc.; because they will lie about you and all those who want to believe their lies will . . . >>
--> This is the fire we are playing with.
God, have mercy on us.
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Get serious sunshine, I was quoting the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. You know, the people who actually organised the raids, processed the people arrested and laid the charges. Stop flapping your gums and deal with reality for a change.timothya
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TA said:
If you could replace “potential” with “actual”, I might agree with you.
I find it troubling that you are apparently saying here that it is appropriate to summarily dismiss and ridicule those who express concerns about, or provide information about, potential child and adult sex slavery conspiracies. Again, I don't see how any responsible adult would advocate or take part in creating an air of hostility against people expressing such concerns or sharing such information.
But as the the mainstream media coverage of the California arrests demonstrated, the paedophiliac illuminati was not found.
Wy did you bring the term "illuminati" into this? Is that yet another attempt to ridicule the concerns of others when it comes to paedophile and human trafficking rings? Why on Earth would you do something like this? I find it difficult to believe and appalling that anyone would ridicule others for their concern about such horrific criminal enterprises. I can understand disbelief and doubt, but what warrants the ridicule and dismissiveness?
All the police found were prostitutes, pimps and johns. Sadly, some of the prostitutes were under age. According to the police, there were zero arrests for human trafficking.
Did you miss the quote from the news about the arrest that KF provided?
Hundreds of people were arrested and dozens of sexually exploited children and adult victims were rescued across California during a statewide operation to combat human trafficking, the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department announced Tuesday.
I notice that the quote you provide in relation to these arrests leaves out the part about human trafficking - the part about the sexually exploited (human trafficking) women and children rescued by the raid.
from the LA Times:
More than two dozen children in California were rescued during a week-long nationwide crackdown on commercial sex trafficking, federal officials announced Monday.
State, local and federal officials also arrested at least 38 alleged pimps in California during the crackdown, dubbed "Operation Cross Country," according to an FBI statement.
Nationwide, law enforcement officials in 106 cities recovered 168 children who had been forced into prostitution, and arrested 281 pimps.
It is disturbing to me that you have chosen to mischaracterize the results of that California operation using selective quotes that left out the very thing that KF and I were bringing to light. It is even more disturbing considering your admission that such conspiracies exist and your reference to other such investigations you apparently consider to be valid.
In any case, it strikes me as unlikely that any unfortunate victim of child sexual abuse would seek support from occupants of this blog. Nor would they, should they accidentally do so, pay any attention to you or me.
Are you attempting to justify your dismissal, ridicule and apparent willful mischaracterization of the facts of the case KF brought to your attention (in light of KF's correction and your subsequent doubling-down) by saying it's unlikely that such behavior on this blog will have much of an effect on the problem?
Your willingness to ridicule such concerns about this matter in order to, apparently, score rhetorical points against political or ideological opponents, and then apparently attempt to justify such behavior when pointed out, is reprehensible. Surely you realize this is not appropriate behavior and all you can possibly be doing here wrt to the actual issue is potentially contributing to a serious problem?
I suggest you apologize and agree that the dismissal and ridicule of such concerns is never appropriate, and that taking such concerns and allegations soberly and seriously is what we should all do regardless of our political and ideological differences in other areas.William J Murray
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If you could replace "potential" with "actual", I might agree with you.
But as the the mainstream media coverage of the California arrests demonstrated, the paedophiliac illuminati was not found. All the police found were prostitutes, pimps and johns. Sadly, some of the prostitutes were under age. According to the police, there were zero arrests for human trafficking.
In any case, it strikes me as unlikely that any unfortunate victim of child sexual abuse would seek support from occupants of this blog. Nor would they, should they accidentally do so, pay any attention to you or me.timothya
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TA: you didn't respond to my #205 & #206.
Will you agree that it is not appropriate (and indeed detrimental) to summarily dismiss and ridicule those who express concerns about, or provide information about, potential child and adult sex slavery conspiracies, seeing as we all know they actually exist? Shouldn't this problem be vigorously brought to light by all concerned citizens, officially investigated where warranted and prosecuted to the full extent of the law?William J Murray
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Nonsense. The only reason that no secular organisations are in the list is that the commission hasn't got to them yet. Hearings will likely continue for several years. However it is fair to note that major State School systems in this country have intensive and longstanding child protection units, mostly staffed by serving police officers.
When I worked in one such system, I remember a CPU investigator saying that diagnosable psycopathy exists in the population at a rate of about 1 in 10000 people, which meant there were probably about 10 such individuals working in the Education Department at any time. Fortunately I only ever encountered them in senior management.timothya
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WJM @ 205: I felt the same way after reading TA's collective comments. He understands the problem of pedophilia within various religious organizations, but then minimizes the problem elsewhere. Strange.Truth Will Set You Free
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I have a further question, TA: Do you think that dismissing and ridiculing people that express such concerns helps or hinders the ability of people to come forward who may be witnesses or victims of actual such conspiracies?
You see, I have a knee-jerk reaction to people that casually dismiss and ridicule others who express such concerns and views: I wonder if they are deliberately contributing to the creation of a hostile atmosphere that deters witnesses and victims from coming forward. After all, how does such dismissal and ridicule help when it comes to finding such criminals and criminal enterprises? How does it help in finding witnesses or victims? How does such an attitude help foster a sense of safety for witnesses and victims? How does it help anything at all in the process?
Why would any reasonable, concerned citizen dismiss and ridicule anyone who shares their concern for the safety and innocence of children even if they think that person is erroneous in their view?William J Murray
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Then, TA, I don't understand the dismissive, ridiculing tone of your post @#200. Do you think that such conspiracies only exist within the framework of the church and church organizations?
I'm sure we agree that paedophilia and child sex trafficking is a horrible evil. I'm sure we agree that people in positions of power, throughout history, have engaged in conspiracies against the innocent. I'm sure we agree that all information brought forth about such activities should be vigorously pursued while taking adequate care to keep from mistakenly destroying lives. I'm sure we agree that if Trump has increased the apprehension of child sex traffickers thus saving children from this criminal enterprise, it's a great thing regardless of one's political leanings.
This makes me wonder about your casual dismissal and implied ridicule for those, like KF and myself, who believe that there is good information available that at least warrants concern and vigorous investigation about the same kind of conspiracy that you refer to, albeit in political and not religious circles.
It could be I'm wrong - I hope I am. However, a look at the evidence available raises questions that, IMO, do not warrant so quick a dismissal and certainly not ridicule for those who share your concern for this kind activity and want it stopped. If we have been duped by "fake news", then that is our honest mistake based on our good intentions and deep concern about the issue; I don't see how dismissing and ridiculing is appropriate.William J Murray
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WJM:
"TA’s reaction is understandable – in fact, it’s normal. Nobody wants to believe this kind of this kind of thing actually exists and is going on. I sure don’t.
However, here is the problem; if true, it necessarily means the media and high levels of the government are complicit in the cover-up/conspiracy of silence. This makes information gleaned from such sources suspect if one wants to give the issue serious consideration. That means it takes a lot more work looking at various non-mainstream sources of information and checking on information yourself when possible.
From my perspective, I’ve had personal, first-hand experience with government working hand in hand with the media to promote an absolute falsehood as true and paint all contradicting witnesses as “conspiracy nuts” and engage in a coordinated disinformation and intimidation campaign. Unless you actually experience that kind of thing first-hand, it’s very, very difficult to believe."
Are you insane? I live in a country that is currently conducting an extremely public national judicial investigation into child sexual abuse. Here is a list of organisations so far identified, some of whose members were evidently paedophiles:
The Catholic Church (1880 complaints)
The Christian Brothers
The Jehovah's Witnesses
The Saletian Order
The Anglican Church
The Uniting Church
The Salvation Army
The Adass Israel School
Knox Grammar School (Uniting Church)
The Order of Saint John of God ("Over the course of 60 years, 40 per cent of the members of the Brothers of St John of God had allegations of child sexual abuse made against them")
So yes, I do know something about this issue.timothya
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WJM, unless you know enough history. Hence, Ganymede, Plato's two parables, nero's life and cases to Beria. Etc. KFkairosfocus
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TA's reaction is understandable - in fact, it's normal. Nobody wants to believe this kind of this kind of thing actually exists and is going on. I sure don't.
However, here is the problem; if true, it necessarily means the media and high levels of the government are complicit in the cover-up/conspiracy of silence. This makes information gleaned from such sources suspect if one wants to give the issue serious consideration. That means it takes a lot more work looking at various non-mainstream sources of information and checking on information yourself when possible.
From my perspective, I've had personal, first-hand experience with government working hand in hand with the media to promote an absolute falsehood as true and paint all contradicting witnesses as "conspiracy nuts" and engage in a coordinated disinformation and intimidation campaign. Unless you actually experience that kind of thing first-hand, it's very, very difficult to believe.William J Murray
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TA, you are in effect calling me a liar. That is a verrry serious step with someone who has staked his life and career on matters of truth and integrity. I know, I know -- on track record -- you will try the denial stunt again, predictably. I stated above that this is on a side point to the main focus as can be seen from OP and thread above. I further stated, I may have misread this case from CA [though kindly cf below]; which is not central to my focal point and likely is not to WJM's either. I pointed out the person speaking to 1500 cases is WJM, who can fill out details if he wishes. I also provided a summary of current or recent cases from all around the world -- which you obviously have not taken seriously; those are in the main big broken cases offered as backdrop to look at the apparent smoke coming out from Wash DC [and I studiously am NOT signing on the dotted line about all or even most of that brewing debate on pizza and hot dogs with a different meaning, simply, there is smoke]. I also linked a vid from a reader which has in it telltales that suggest fire not just ugly smoke, going back decades. And, on my life experience, corruption getting in on law enforcement, courts and govts, businesses, schools, media and even churches or orphanages and banks, is not unheard of or to be brushed aside. That smoke points to pedo that has corrupted business, finance, parties, government, churches and it points to what looks like signs of ruthless cover up. I took time to point onward to a link to the main theme through Beria, even clipping on his girl-flower rape-pick "game." Now, in which of these have I shown untruth, deceitfulness or not caring what the realities on the ground are? Ans, nil. But, you are obviously looking for excuses to dismiss and denigrate. And, no 63 in the other thread still waits. KF
PS: I clip from an article from your side of the general debate on the CA case, that may help clarify my "may":
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cali-children-trafficked-arrested-saved/
>>Massive Child Sex Ring Busted in CA — 474 Arrested, 28 Children Saved
Matt Agorist February 1, 2017 29 Comments
>>Los Angeles, CA — In a massive statewide operation targeting human traffickers, hundreds of people were arrested and dozens of sexually-exploited children were saved.
These are the men & women to thank for rescuing 27 Adult & 28 juvenile females, and attesting 36 suspected traffickers & 142 "Johns" @LASDHQ pic.twitter.com/rR67pED7Ih
— Jim McDonnell (@LACoSheriff) January 31, 2017
The bust was part of a statewide operation to combat human trafficking, the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department announced Tuesday.
According to KTLA, more than 30 federal, state and local law enforcement agencies and task forces, as well as the Los Angeles Regional Human Trafficking Task Force, participated in the third annual “Operation Reclaim and Rebuild” enforcement operation, according to a sheriff’s news release.
The operation resulted in 474 arrests including 142 males on solicitation charges, and 36 males for pimping.
It is important to note that some of these arrests included people trying to simply pay another willing adult to have sex with them . . . . >>
KTLA, linked from the above adds:
http://ktla.com/2017/02/01/474-arrested-28-sexually-exploited-children-rescued-during-statewide-human-trafficking-operation-lasd/
>>Hundreds of people were arrested and dozens of sexually exploited children and adult victims were rescued across California during a statewide operation to combat human trafficking, the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department announced Tuesday . . . .
In total, 474 arrests were made, including 142 males on solicitation charges, and 36 males on suspicion of pimping, according to figures provided by the Sheriff’s Department.
Additionally, 28 commercially and sexually exploited children and 27 adult victims were rescued.
“You are worthy of more. And we will work tirelessly with our partners … to provide you services and help you rebuild your life,” Sheriff Jim McDonnell said, addressing the victims during a news conference on Tuesday.
The minors who were recovered during the operation were being cared for by various children and family services agencies across the state, according to sheriff’s officials. The Coalition to Abolish Slavery and Trafficking and the Saving Innocence organization were coordinating efforts to help victims in L.A. County.
“Operation Reclaim and Rebuild focused on rescuing victims of sexual slavery and human trafficking, providing victims with much-needed services, identifying and arresting their captors, seeking successful prosecutions, and disrupting the demand for vulnerable victims by targeting their customers,” the release stated.>>
PPS: What I wrote about my homeland is no secret, conspiracy theory history. Start with Pearnel Charles' Detained and move forward through 1980 to 1983 in Grenada. Yes, WPJ leader Trevor Munroe advised the Grenada folks in the days of the Ft Rupert Massacre and aftermath, and I subsequently learned that a Cuban neighbour of my second parents [the Embassy was a short distance away] died there in the US-led invasion. BTW, a trove of papers captured in that invasion was subsequently published as being the first time since the German invasion of 1941 that such a trove showing how Commis act in power was captured; of course the collapse of the USSR provided much more. The Cess student strike events of 1986 played out before a shocked country. I can name the agitator I spoke of, and just what post -- to my astonishment -- he now holds. In 1990, Russia sent a delegation of apology to hold a public conference of apology; duly reported in the newspapers. The account of the murder of my auntie in her shop at the head of Mountain View Avenue appeared in the press in 1980, and the head of the Committee of Women for Progress did make two radio appearances, the first calling for vigilantism against alleged hoarding shop keepers, the second denying that she provided incitement provoking murder by just such a vigilante. There was of course a very real shortage of rice, which led to the shooting. And, much more; just as with how your assumed knowledge of the Dover case collapsed once a few details were put on the table fleshing out my initial summary. In short, it is you who have shown yourself disrespectful of facts that are inconvenient.
PPPS: I will pick up just one other point. Jupiter's moon Ganymede points to how prevalent pedophilia was among the powerful in pagan times. It also gives hints about the mentality among elites in Galileo's day. Onward, this points to the issue that such pedophilia among the powerful and decadent is a recurring, persistent phenomenon that needs to be seen and addressed as a whole. So, no, this is not trivia, men do not lightly give names to heavenly bodies, especially where the four moons were a major discovery, indeed an unprecedented one: almost doubling the number of known "wanderers" in the heavens and providing powerful support for heliocentrism. In that context, why such a loaded name?kairosfocus
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Of course a factual statement by the law enforcement agency carrying out the arrests in California is irrelevant to your narrative. I understand that.
Facts don't matter when we are invited to buy into conspiracy theories, nefarious elites, paedophile pizza shop rings, gun fondling, the homoerotic naming of Jupiter's moons, the secret history of Jamaica, Freemasonry, Islam-bashing, Breitbart (definitely not an agit-prop sewer), WW2 aircraft specifications, secret cash for Iran (wasn't the USA legally obliged to return the money it sequestered in 1979?), Trump's Almighty, and just for fun, a personal car crash morality fable.timothya
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TA, please take a moment to read here, on the global matter you are dealing with; duly noting the number of countries involved, as well as the number of individuals; WJM if he wishes will address his figure of 1500. If I misread the CA case, I did so, that is irrelevant to what is emerging bit by bit and in my current view has been going on for at least decades, plainly backed up by willingness to use murder and perversion of justice to enforce omerta. Kindly, take time to watch Reader X's vid also [nb: i just saw a 2 hr : 43 min version here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uBMXOsryd0 ] -- the telltale that there is substantial truth to the issue is the crushing sentence delivered against a steadfast witness through pressured recantations including by a young man whose brother mysteriously died. Notice what happened to an investigator, his son and a briefcase. There is horrible-smelling smoke here, it has been coming up for a long time, it is literally of global reach and on reasonable inference, this is about utterly ruthless perverted, powerful people. People who, on known cases, e.g. Savile, have clearly corruptly influenced governments and major institutions of trust and responsibility as well as churches [it looks like we see a sudden change of attitude when the pedo corruption issue is seen to go well beyond a scapegoated institution . . . ]. We have reason to be seriously concerned that we are seeing the tip of a very ugly iceberg. And, the pattern of unresponsiveness on your part to that broad pattern is telling us something. KF
PS Recall, this is a side point. The core issue is that there is a decades long known pattern of agit prop feeding media shadow shows used to push agendas and reinforce abusive, destructive power. In case you don't know, one of the authors of this system of manipulation and subversion, Beria, was a horrible pervert -- a rapist at will, torturer and murderer beyond merely mass murder. Let me clip a few samples from Telegraph and add to what was here:
Of all the brutal killers to emerge from the 20th century, Beria, a Georgian like his master, was one of the most malign.
Anton Antonov-Ovseyenko, a historian, who spent 13 years in the camps and later wrote a book about Beria, said: "The gulags existed before Beria, but he was the one who built them on a mass scale. He industrialised the gulag system. Human life had no value for him."
He was also deeply depraved and a notorious sexual predator. At night he would cruise the streets of Moscow seeking out teenage girls. When he saw one who took his fancy he would have his guards deliver her to his house.
Mr Antonov-Ovseyenko said: "Sometimes he would have his henchmen bring five, six or seven girls to him. He would make them strip, except for their shoes, and then force them into a circle on their hands and knees with their heads together.
"He would walk around in his dressing gown inspecting them. Then he would pull one out by her leg and haul her off to rape her. He called it the flower game."
Even fellow senior Communists, many of them mass murderers in their own right, had nothing good to say about Beria. They described him as slippery and obsequious in front of his superiors, brutal and cunning behind their backs.
He reportedly won Stalin's favour in the early 1930s after faking a conspiracy to assassinate the Soviet leader that he then claimed to have foiled. In 1938 Stalin rewarded Beria's dog-like loyalty by making him head of the NKVD. One account says Beria personally strangled his predecessor, Nikolai Yezhov.
When Stalin died in 1953, Beria made a bid for power but was outmanoeuvred by Nikita Khrushchev, who feared and loathed him. Khrushchev had him arrested, charged with spying for Britain and shot.
PPS: A summary of evidence on the Dover case still awaits your attention in another thread, cf esp no 63 there.
PPPS: towards the end the vid speaks of a US$1 mn/yr call boy network, with 20,000 documents in evidence including credit card records and cancelled cheques sealed from investigative reporter on court order once it was discovered someone was looking. Telltale again, this one tying Nebraska to Wash DC. Claimed to implicate govt, law enforcement, media and even churches. There is something rotten and it is not just Denmark this time.kairosfocus
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PS: The tell-tale that effectively says it all. Alisha Owen, witness turned on by others (including one whose brother died mysteriously and who says he was pressured to recant . . . ) was sentenced to an unprecedented up to 27 years on perjury charges. Here is the report in the newspaper on her parole after 4 1/2 years: http://www.franklincase.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=168:king-expands-into-food-service-something-on-every-burner-jan-12-1985-&catid=6:news-articles&Itemid=14 . Smoking gun. Owen speaks: http://www.franklinscandal.com/Owen/kairosfocus
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"478 people arrested in a statewide California sting that included zero sex-trafficking arrests, according to a press release from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. One-hundred and forty-two men were arrested for attempting to pay consenting adult women for sexual activity. Thirty-six men were arrested for pimping. The rest of those arrested—300 in total—were women taken in on prostitution charges or people in trouble for charges unrelated to commercial sexual activity."timothya
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Reader X in action:
Pedo omerta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HOQR2kYdFM
--> Watch, this is not a blanket endorsement, this has been passed to me by a reader X. (Note the other vids, watch i/l/o the issues in the straight vs spin grid in the OP. [I add, cf this summary on the more recent allegations, do read here and onward with care; neither dismissing out of hand nor gullibly swallowing, the former case makes the latter at the very least be worth a careful reading that does not forget the Potiphar's wife problem: false accusation with plausible evidence is also possible so warrant has to be carefully grounded indeed, particularly on explosive matters. Note, the Savile case, hushed up for decades, also reinforces the point.])
--> Omerta is proof of organised crime scale conspiracy, here with human trafficking and likely with not just kidnapping but inevitably murders likely to be involved. (I am not endorsing speculations on ritual murder, I am just saying that kidnappings and human trafficking esp. if tied to abuse will have "casualties." FYI, if you break and enter a house and in the process an innocent is injured and dies, robbery just went up to murder. I add, the documentary points to claimed FBI pressure on victims to recant and highlights the air crash death of an investigator and his child, and that of the brother of a chief "recanted" witness' brother in a gun accident termed "mysterious." That should give us very careful pause indeed.)
--> Here, case no. 2 popped open just yesterday, a medical practitioner was arrested for allegedly assaulting a patient sexually. Other doctors have gone on a demonstration-strike on grounds they are highly vulnerable to false charges of abuse. (They are saying, they now have to hire chaperones [nurses, I believe will be required and they cannot be spouses], and the implication is we just joined the world of malpractice insurance. They announced private practice fees are expected to double.)
--> Case no. 1 goes ahead v. slowly, and many doubt it will ever succeed, as the lawyer in question is expert on breaking criminal prosecutions. I think there is likely to be DNA evidence, and smart phones have accelerometers etc. So they can fingerprint the gait of those carrying them, and they can fingerprint the unique typing styles of those using them, as well as voices. This means they can pin you down, including of course location through GPS and/or interaction timing with cell towers. (A cell signal can be picked up by several towers, and speed of light gives delay times of ~300m/micro-sec, as is commonly used with radar. If you are on a special list, they have you covered. [I suggest WhattsApp or the like, if you are dealing with legitimate business but are concerned about 1984 stuff. If you are a crook, I have no suggestions, other than get your soul straight, find a priest and a lawyer and go to a good prosecutor to make a clean breast of it and plea bargain. Do not talk to police etc without due guidance. I once had a minor accident, my fault (save for a surprise windscreen white-out due to light through tree-tops) -- I insisted on saying so again and again, and that I was standing costs -- but went through a 2-hour grilling and statement process obviously structured to be entangling.])
--> In related stuff, FB may be listening to you as well as monitoring content you post and look at all over the net . . . note, all those FB link backs and sharing features. Ostensibly, adverts are targetted, covertly I wonder if Big Brother is watching you, Winston Smith.
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WJM, I missed the scale. So they are using pedo as the leverage to break the omerta. KFkairosfocus
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Look up the mythological connexions of Ganymede. And what a "Catamite" is. Do not miss the significance of Nero's two "marriages" (a) to a castrated boy, and (b) to a man. Tie in the sexual cannibalism in the arena, per Suetonius, and connect a dot or two across to the events and aftermath of July 18, 64 AD. Then, look again at Rom 1:19 - 32.kairosfocus
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"Notice the names of the Galilean moons of Jupiter.".
What significance to you ascribe to those names?timothya
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Pindi's reaction is normal. It's far easier, and more soothing for the mind, heart and soul, to deny such things and ridicule them, keeping them firmly out of mind and at arm's length. It’s so bad it’s beyond belief.
The human trafficking epidemic is easy enough to verify - one only needs to run a few searches with search engines or on YouTube to find plenty of documentation. Here is a good starting point:
Why the MSM Is Ignoring Trump's Sex Trafficking Busts
It lists some of the latest large-scale sex trafficking busts just in the USA, a large portion of which were pedo-related.
From the article:
Since President Donald Trump has been sworn in on Jan. 20, authorities have arrested an unprecedented number of sexual predators involved in child sex trafficking rings in the United States. This should be one of the biggest stories in the national news. Instead, the mainstream media has barely, if at all, covered any of these mass pedophile arrests. This begs the question – why?
As a strong advocate for sex crime victims, I’ve been closely following the pedophile arrests since Trump took office. There have been a staggering 1,500-plus arrests in one short month; compare that to less than 400 sex trafficking-related arrests in 2014 according to the FBI.
400 arrests in all of 2014 under Obama. 1500 arrests under Trump in his first month in office in 2017. Many more major global rings busted in other countries.
You can look up and find the connections on your own. That's all I'm going to say on the subject.William J Murray
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PPS: A clip from Barron, never mind the follytricks-driven snide remarks by the artic;le's author:
“As a writer, intellectual, and friend of the Boris Pasternak [author of Dr. Zhivago] family, Krotkov was welcomed by foreigners in Moscow. This tall, slender man, with a handsome shock of dark brown hair and an intense, expressive face, could talk suavely in English or Russian about the arts, history, and prominent Soviet personalities. Soon he learned to exploit the hunger of visitors for communication with the Soviet people. All the while, Krotkov was instructed to look for attractive girls whom the KGB could use to tempt foreigners into trouble. He picked them primarily from among actresses he met while writing film scenarios. The KGB offered them various inducements—the promise of better roles, money, clothes, a measure of liberty and gaiety absent from normal Soviet life.”
The girls were called “swallows” and they flew solo or in formation, depending upon the needs of Krotkov and his masters in the special services. Quarters were provided to them for assignations with their foreign marks—these were “swallow’s nests”—which consisted of two adjoining rooms; one for the tryst and one for the KGB’s audio-visual squad to record everything for the inevitable blackmail and Faustian offer.
A bit of SMICE, if you please . . .kairosfocus
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PS: That infamous French case is at least mentioned online: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/30/the-epic-honey-trap-a-classic-case-shows-just-how-far-moscow-will-go.htmlkairosfocus
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TA,
Pardon, but I have to start on a personal note. You are the one who has evidently slunk away on tippy-toes (h'mm, a strangely familiar pattern . . . ) when substantiating details have been provided in another thread. That speaks volumes.
Or, perhaps, you are now willing to engage the substantial issues. We wait.
As for this thread, you obviously have forgotten the world-rocking revelations about the P2 Lodge and its corrupt influences in Italy, the Vatican and more. Just say, Blackfriar's Bridge bears strange "ornaments" on occasion. (Oh, a bit of a historical mystery from 1826 may help spark a thought or two on some strange coincidences on Masonic Oaths and penalties.)
You also seem ignorant of the standard intel toolbox of manipulation, SMICE: sex, money, ideology, compromise and extortion. As in, did you ever read the account of the KGB Swallows Nest honey trap entrapment of French military attaches etc? And how that led to suicide? (Is it much of a stretch from that to enmeshing targets in a decadent inner circle then bringing on the thrills of the Lolitas on some Lolita Air private jet flying to a privately owned Lolita Island, with cameras and mikes a-rolling? In places such as Thailand or even next door to Puerto Rico? No, I am not talking Epstein Island, I am talking the DR butterskins here (the type of exotic beauties at the heart of a local apparent instance involving a very senior individual now facing a huuuuge case). H'mm, Y'r Honour, I call to the stand Mr Dennis Hastert [Congressional pages wasn't that], followed by Mr Weiner [last heard from sexting a 15 YO girl in NC on how he fantasised taking her virginity . . . which is now a definite commodity, price upwards of US$10,000 for a real exotic hottie] -- or, have we so soon forgotten that. For sure, right here we have a case playing out of powerful men indicted as caught up in pedo; which seems to be addictive and entangling. Dirty money dealings seem to lurk in the background.)
From my POV, I came to awareness at a time when intel agit prop and media shadow show games brought my native land down to civil war. That ugly tactic cost me a dear auntie, murdered in her shop by a vigilante motivated by media statements of heads of commi front operations.
I was personally targetted later on in a student meeting, but the swarm tactic could not be sprung as Hall Mates were present and turned on the snake in the grass. I left that meeting, only to hear within two hours that the main axis for reinforcements from a military base in the mountains was blocked. I rushed to the scene, about a mile away on the other side of the uni campus. By then mobile reserve paramilitary police had used teargas and M16's firing blanks on full auto followed by a charge to clear the block. (The message was, next time it won't be blanks. That was 1986, and the commis -- actually one hothead -- had blurted out in earlier meeting that the intent was to get student marchers to provoke a bloody shirt incident to trigger revolution, parallel to Philippines and Haiti. I saw that student literally dragged out of the meeting by the ear, by a senior commi and Uni Lecturer present.)
Don't try to pretend that agit prop, media shadow show games and corrupt elite inner circle networks, honey traps and SMICE are not real.
All you are demonstrating is how living in denial of the potential and/or signs of actuality of such are enabling behaviour.
For shame!
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"Fascinating. [backs away slowly…]"
Quick, hide in Plato's Cave.timothya
