In a current thread frequent objector EG comments — and yes, I am catching up: KF and others talk about “objective” as being something that is unchangeable. For example, homosexuality is objectively wrong. Always was, always will be. This doesn’t change with the times. But you argue that my preference of ice cream flavor is also objectively true. If my preference for ice cream is objective, and changeable, then other objective things, like moral values, are also changeable. Nope. For one, what I have said about objectivity (or rather, what Wikipedia has been forced to admit against obvious ideological inclination) is: Objectivity is a philosophical concept of being true independently from individual subjectivity caused by perception, emotions, or imagination. A Read More ›

Ed George asserted that morality is based on societal consensus.  Upright Biped utterly demolished that argument.  See here.  Seversky and Ed tried to respond to UB’s arguments.  Let’s start with Sev:  I, like everyone else here, would also want [the rape] to stop. Why? I should not have to say this but it is because we can imagine her suffering and know that it is not something we would like to experience nor would we want to see it inflicted on anyone else. It’s called empathy and its derived principle of the Golden Rule which, in my view, is more than sufficient grounds for morality. This is a muddled mashup of two of the materialists’ favorite dodges.  First Sev appeals Read More ›